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Monday, November 09, 2009

Johnny Robertson DOESN'T know the Bible... again!

I must confess: it's entered my mind that the more local cult leader Johnny Robertson harasses others and tries to destroy lives and congregations, the more opportunity he's providing for others to seriously present what the Bible really says about Christ and salvation because of His grace.

There was much to observe from last night's What Does the Bible Say? on WGSR. For openers, Robertson validated something that I noted about him last week: that he not only insists upon baptism for the wrong reasons and damns those who don't subscribe to his belief, but that Robertson also think he controls baptism! It came when a woman called and asked to be baptized and Robertson expressed great hesitancy about it because Robertson suggested that the woman didn't "understand" why she wanted baptism. He claimed to take her phone number so that he could call her later, so that she wouldn't "die in" her sins... because Robertson demands that salvation is in the water and not in the Blood.

Kinda makes you wonder if Robertson and his cult actually worship H20, as much as they talk about it more than they ever talk about Jesus Christ.

Other things from last night's show, in no particular order...

- Robertson once again condemned dancing as sin, without any scriptural basis for it (other than a bizarre use of the story about John the Baptist and Herod).

- Robertson likened himself to John the Baptist and Malcolm X (?!?!?).

- Robertson continued to vent his unwholesome jealousy and hatred toward Martinsville-based television station BTW.

But it was Robertson's long tirade against Jonathan Falwell and comedian Steve Harvey that raised my eyebrows the most, and convinced me anew that for all his boasting, Johnny Robertson does NOT understand the Bible at all.

Robertson ran a clip of Harvey on some Christian talk show, talking about his born-again experience. And Steve Harvey was very up-front about his shortcomings in life, like being a divorced man. Some of the things he discussed in the clip elicited hearty laughter from the audience.

The gist of what Steve Harvey and Jonathan Falwell were saying is that God accepts us just as we are. But that's not good enough for Johnny Robertson. During last night's show Robertson declared and insisted many times that we can't "come as we are" before Christ. We have to be "good enough" for God before He can accept us, Robertson said.


Because I have read the New Testament, and if there's one thing that it says more than anything else it is that we can't merit salvation by any work we attempt on our own behalf. That the only thing that saves us is the finished work of Christ on the cross. And that to try to "add on" to that work - as Robertson and his cult insist - is to not have salvation at all!

So Mr. Robertson, God doesn't want us to come just as we are?

Well, Jesus Himself repudiates that notion in the parable of the wedding guest, as is recorded in Matthew 22, verses 2 through 14 (from the New International Version):
"The kingdom of heaven is like a king who prepared a wedding banquet for his son. He sent his servants to those who had been invited to the banquet to tell them to come, but they refused to come.

"Then he sent some more servants and said, 'Tell those who have been invited that I have prepared my dinner: My oxen and fattened cattle have been butchered, and everything is ready. Come to the wedding banquet.'

"But they paid no attention and went off—one to his field, another to his business. The rest seized his servants, mistreated them and killed them. The king was enraged. He sent his army and destroyed those murderers and burned their city.

"Then he said to his servants, 'The wedding banquet is ready, but those I invited did not deserve to come. Go to the street corners and invite to the banquet anyone you find.' So the servants went out into the streets and gathered all the people they could find, both good and bad, and the wedding hall was filled with guests.

"But when the king came in to see the guests, he noticed a man there who was not wearing wedding clothes. 'Friend,' he asked, 'how did you get in here without wedding clothes?' The man was speechless.

"Then the king told the attendants, 'Tie him hand and foot, and throw him outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.'

"For many are invited, but few are chosen."

A somewhat bizarre tale rife with hyperbole... but typical of Jesus and nobody before or since has ever mastered such metanoia-inducing metaphor.

Most of the parable is easy enough to understand. Then we get to the king's second invitation: he dispatches his servants to invite everybody that they can find, "both good and bad", to come and enjoy the wedding banquet.

How much more clearer than this must it be: that God does accept us wherever we are or however we are?

But then we arrive at the part about the guest who was "not wearing wedding clothes" and the king assails him for his lack of proper garment. And were Johnny Robertson or some of his followers to feign earnest discussion of this passage, they would no doubt interpret that it means we must be rightly "clothed" of our own accord in order to approach God. And they would not possibly be more spectacularly wrong in such insistence!

Because it was the custom in those days, in that part of the world, that the wealthy would not only provide food at a wedding banquet but also special clothes - usually some kind of robe - to each of his guests to wear for the occasion. Such attire masked social status or personal standing. At the banquet for the king's son, all were equal regardless of earthly position.

And then there is that one "guest" who just had to be different. We aren't told if beyond the palace walls he were rich or poor. I tend to believe that he was of considerable wealth and affluence. Why do I think that? Because a poorer person in those days would no doubt be thrilled to receive some new clothes for free and from the king... just for attending a banquet!

But not this one guy. He came alright. But he thought that he was too good than to accept the king's favor. That was for people who were "beneath" him. He trusted in his own righteousness to justify his presence at the banquet. This "guest" thought that he could get away with his own works and reject the complete and unconditional grace of the king. All he had to do was accept it "just as" he was.

No wonder the king became so furious! He had provided a sumptuous feast and wonderful new clothes for every guest, so that his son's wedding would be celebrated. This alleged "guest" tried to steal the spotlight by showing himself off.

Now, who does that sound like?

No doubt that many of you are expecting me to automatically ascribe Johnny Robertson as being like this miscreant wedding guest. But honestly, this could be anyone. And each of us would be cast out from the sight of the King for trusting in our own efforts more than trusting in His grace and provenance. It just happens that for sake of this discussion, Johnny Robertson and his followers clothe themselves with the name "Church of Christ" and boast that this alone will get them into Heaven to the exclusion of all others.

To the credit of the guest in the parable, at least he apparently didn't try to throw anyone else out of the party because he might have sneered at them.

Johnny Robertson can't even claim that much for himself.


Walkinginlove said...

The wedding clothing the man was not wearing was the Holy Spirit, without that seal you are not welcome to the feast.

Yet the hardline CoC believe that you no longer are indwelled by the Holy Spirit!! Thus it is all up to you to learn and live God's word without the help of the comforter.

Yet clearly this passage teaches without the Holy Spirit's covering that shows us part of Christ we are not welcome!

Anonymous said...

The lady that called in wanting to be baptized by Johnny is always calling in defending everything Johnny does. One comment during a time Johnny was discussing music in the church she said the music they are playing like that just shows you and that was all she had to say about that. She added they have to have something to hide. She also calls into Micah Robertson and Mark McMinnis shows. Johnny sends her Bible CD's and she claims to have met him. Johnny and the others seem to proudly listen to every word she says as she defends them and gives her version of Biblical things? Robin also calls every other host at WGSR telling the men how good looking they are. She told Charles Roark she can get a little “CRAZY” she will tell him that. She said she likes to cut up and laugh. She told one host she was a “PSYCHIC and wants them to bring back horoscopes on the station. She asked one host if she could come up there in her bathing suit and let Foxy Moxy paint her body and then show her on TV.

The other lady that called in bashing the two guys from BTW network that Johnny referred to as a fabulous sounds like Cindy Price the lady that wrote the song about the sheriff deputies in Henry County after they were caught for drugs. Now she is recommending their services these days. She seems to be working her way back to WGSR TV and has been calling in several times recently.

Chris Knight said...

I could see that, Walkinginlove. But I also have to wonder about that, since at the time the Holy Spirit was something that had not come yet. It came later, after Christ's resurrection and ascension.

I *do* believe however that the Holy Spirit, like everything else associated with salvation, comes through the grace of God. And that is something that we can not possibly "earn" with our works... including baptism.

It amazes me how Robertson, Oldfield and the rest of their cult can inflict so much hurt on other people stemming from nothing other than their fixation on ONE verse of scripture and ignoring EVERYTHING else in the Bible that screams contrary to their twisted interpretation.

Anonymous said...

I'm curious to know how Johnny Robertson and his gang got the video of the ladies dancing in the place he called a bar. They do visit trash cans do they also visit bars?

Once again he has found what he calls a misdressed person that he accuses of showing herself to the men as she dances. According to him something was wrong with the pants she was wearing.

I wonder how he sleeps at night with his mind filled with these kinds of thoughts.

Anonymous said...

You know what hypocrisy is?

Johnny Robertson says that BTW is sinning and wrong for showing beer and dancing.

Johnny Robertson hasn't said anything about his own business with WGSR a station run by a homosexual convicted felon who cried like a baby in courtroom that he had "urges" that don't stop him from stealing things.

Johnny tell us why you keep giving the Church of Christ's money to that homosexual convicted felon.

ISJT said...

JR doesn't want people to know that. He makes a big deal about BTW and about how he won't eat at TGI Fridays or any other restaurant that serves alcohol. Robertson won't help support those places but he will give even more hordes of money to Charles Roark.

Yes Johnny Robertson is a hypocrite!

Anonymous said...

JR is always talking about women dancing hasn't he seen Jessica Griffith of Star News dancing and shaking her body? She is a preacher something else Johnny thinks is not right. Not that I think anything is wrong with her dancing it's just he never mentions her.

Anonymous said...

WGSR's Charles Roark is not a homosexual!

We know the truth. WGSR's Charles Roark is a bi-sexual!

He probably has to be. What woman would want to get laid with someone that disgusting.

Johnny Robertson won't give his own money to restaurants that serve booze but he will give the churches money to a sexually deviant felon.

Anonymous said...

I recall in the past Charles Roark said when he and Johnny were out Johnny would not go in Applebees Restaurant with him because they sell beer.

Anonymous said...

Seems like Charles has too close a relationship with Johnny instead of being simple business and client. See how many times Charles calls Johnny on live tv with his number right from memory. Johnny is Charles favorite person to call.

And yes Charles Roark is a bisexual. It's one of Martinsville's dirty secrets.

Anonymous said...

It does seem a little strange Johnny and Charles have this close of a relationship, going out to lunch, phone number on speed dial etc, yet Charles Roark is not a member of the Church of Christ. I have never heard Johnny tell Charles Roark he is going to hell as well as the other WGSR host like he does so many of his callers who are not members of the COC. This is very confusing Johnny will associate with Charles socially yet don't he want to save Charles's soul as he claims he wants for others many of whom are strangers to Johnny.

Anonymous said...

Gloria, you're always on the run now
Running after somebody, you gotta get him somehow
I think you've got to slow down before you start to blow it
I think you're headed for a breakdown, so be careful not to show it

You really don't remember, was it something that he said?
Are the voices in your head calling, Gloria?

Be right back, I have to go pee-pee in my yard...

Anonymous said...

Charles Roark commented today after a caller called him a dirty name that these type of people need help.

Maybe he could recommend Psychologist Joseph Leizer of Martinsville VA that he used. Roark called the caller the same dirty name.

Anonymous said...

Gloria, how is your daughter? Is she dating more cops these days? Or was one trip to the rodeo enough for her? I hear her name got four stars in the men's room at the police department. Hawt!

Anonymous said...

I think Charles Roark is totally babe-a-licious! Charles, if you read this, email me. I'd like to get together with you and Cindy Price and hang out and do what you do. steppingup@triad.rr.com

PROUD-X-COC said...

Johnny Robertson on Topix doesn't deny that Charles Roark is a bi-sexual convicted felon.


Anonymous said...

Gloria, you're always on the run now
Running after somebody, you gotta get him somehow
I think you've got to slow down before you start to blow it
I think you're headed for a breakdown, so be careful not to show it

You really don't remember, was it something that he said?
Are the voices in your head calling, Gloria?

I better go now...I'm warming up the karaoke machine! The same one shut down by the Reidsville PD.

Anonymous said...

The more, that Johnny acts up and does this stuff, the more he shows the whole world that he's not a Christian. Jesus, Paul, Peter would not act like Johnny. Johnny is Lucifer's man in Martinsville. Thank God Johnny's Martinsville Church Of Christ has so little members. Someone would have to be a numskull to believe Johnny Robertson about anything.

Anonymous said...

Mr. Carles Frye of 215 Liberty Road voices concerns about neighbor. Mr. Carles Frye of 215 Liberty Road, Reidsville, approached Council about a situation in his neighborhood. He complained that his neighbor was urinating within 15 feet of his backyard. They were throwing big parties with 40-50 people there and having big fires on their property as well, Mr. Frye said.

Mr. Frye said anytime he brought up an issue Council couldn't talk about, let him know and he'd bring up the next issue.

Problems escalated about three weeks ago, Mr. Frye said. A police officer came to his house about 10:30-11 p.m. because police had received a complaint that his daughter was playing the music too loud. The complaint came from a neighbor, and Mr. Frye said he knew which neighbor. Mr. Frye said he was working at the time and was not at home. His wife asked the police officer why he was coming to their house and saying something about the music being too loud and not doing anything about the neighbors in the backyard? Mr. Frye said he was quoting his wife and daughter, who said the police officer told his wife that if she didn't shut up, he was going to put handcuffs on her and take her to jail right then, Mr. Frye said. His daughter spoke up and said why are you doing this, Mr. Frye said. The police officer threatened to handcuff the daughter and take her to jail too.

The Mayor stopped Mr. Frye. Mayor Donecker asked the City Manager if he was aware of this incident? The City Manager said he wasn't sure if he was aware of this particular case. Mayor Donecker said the City Manager needs to talk with the Police Chief about this and they shouldn't talk about it anymore because it is a personnel issue. The Mayor said he didn't want to give Mr. Frye a false sense of security that they, the Council, was going to do something about it. Mr. Frye said he has filed a complaint with the Police Department already.

The other issue was his neighbors creating fires and urinating near his backyard. Mr. Frye said he had surveillance videos of the neighbor doing this, which he had given to the secretary at City Hall over four weeks ago. He said he was hoping that the Mayor could reply. Mayor Donecker informed Mr. Frye it was not within the scope of his responsibility to watch surveillance videos. He said this was a situation that he could not become involved in, either personally or as Mayor. He suggested Mr. Frye go to an attorney for legal advice. (Editor's note: The Fryes have surveillance cameras mounted on their fence. The cameras are pointed to record the urinating habits of of their neighbor)

Mr. Frye said he had, but he couldn't afford the $4,000 to $10,000 the attorney would charge. Mayor Donecker said this is not a City matter but is a squabble between neighbors. He said he was sorry it was going to cost Mr. Frye, but there was nothing he could do.

Mr. Frye said he couldn't understand why the City Council couldn't create an ordinance making it illegal to urinate on private property. City Manager Almond said the City could make it illegal on public right of ways but not on private property.

Anonymous said...

Mr. Frye asked Council members how they would feel if someone urinated about 15 feet in front of your daughter, in view of your property and swimming pool area. The Mayor said it would only happen one time, and he would put up a fence. Mr. Frye said he has a fence up around his pool area. He said he felt the City should be able to do something.

Councilman Festerman said he would think if the neighbor did this in front of the daughter and she saw him exposing himself, something could be done. Mr. Frye said no, the neighbor turns his back to the fence. The Mayor again recommended a fence, something with overlapping borders so that people can't see through it.

Mr. Frye asked what were the height restrictions for fencing? City Manager Almond said he didn't know, but he didn't think there was a restriction. Mr. Frye said the neighbor had urinated near his backyard at least 137 times since December of last year. Again, the Mayor told Mr. Frye the best thing to do was to put up a fence.

Mr. Frye asked again whether Council couldn't enact an ordinance. The Mayor said that, unfortunately, on private property, if they wanted to be like an animal, they could.

Mr. Frye also complained that the neighbors have been draining water onto his property. Codes Inspector Tim Warner came out and looked at it, and told him it was a "natural flow."

Mr. Frye talked about the fires that are created on the neighbor's property. He said Fire Chief Bracken said he doesn't know how high a fire can go. The fires blow smoke all over his picnic area, he added. Mr. Frye said the neighbors' children also trespass on his land, but he won't call the police out on the children.

Fencing was discussed again. Mr. Frye said he has about 485 feet in the back of a yard and its shaped like in a triangle. His current fence is only around the pool area.

City Attorney Bill McLeod reiterated what the Mayor had said, stating that most of what he had said wouldn't fall in the City's realm of responsibility.

City officials told Mr. Frye that there was a City noise ordinance.

Mr. Frye complained that the neighbors kept a dog lot within 10 feet of his property line. The dog kennel had smelled so bad that the animal control officer did come out and make the neighbors clean it out and put lime down. City Manager Almond said there is a City ordinance against a dog kennel being too close to a property line.

Councilman Festerman said they could try to come up with all the "magical bullets," but it comes down to harassment. He said he wished Council could help Mr. Frye, but he agreed that building a big fence seemed the best answer. He said he hoped Mr. Frye hadn't brought more retaliation upon himself by appearing before Council today. He asked Mr. Frye if he had thought about moving? Mr. Frye said that's not what this country is all about.

Mediation was suggested if a mutual friend could be found to handle the dispute. Mr. Frye said he didn't know of any mutual friends, and he didn't think mediation would work.

He said he had been told to talk to the District Attorney to see what she could come up with.

Silas said...

You thoroughly countered Robertson and his cult Chris.

Johnny Robertson has a seared conscience.

Johnny Robertson has hardened his heart.

Johnny Robertson has fallen to strong delusion.

Johnny Robertson has no compassion or sympathy.

Johnny Robertson has not Christ. He has nothing other than hatred toward his father, toward you, toward everyone who will not follow him.

When he dies it will be no great loss to this world or the kingdom of God.

Johnny Robertson will be remembered with contempt. His children with scorn. His grandchildren with ridicule. They will be known as the offspring of a mad man who did nothing useful with his life. They will be known as the offspring of a man who only hated and hurt innocent people.

There is not one thing redeemable about Johnny Robertson. I used to pray for him but I will no longer. He wants to go to hell. We shouldn't try to stop him.

Silas said...

And if Johnny Robertson comes to the door of my house I will gladly send him to hell personally.

Sgt Mom said...

Silas, you are perfectly and exactly correct. I am a Christian, I am also a student at Liberty University where the Bible is studied like never before, and I also am a war veteran (Iraq 2003)and I have seen the other side of the world where Christ is hated: this man is everything you say he is. We are only getting a glimpse of hell. Good thing we're not going Praise God!